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- Subject: Electric Vehicles FAQ Part 1/3
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- Archive-Name: autos/Electric/Part1
- Last-Modified: 1993/10/19
-
- This Electric Vehicle FAQ attempts to provide answers to common questions
- about Electric Vehicles (EVs) as well as provide information on where to get
- more information. Permission is granted to reproduce the information in this
- document in any form as long as there is there is no charge or at most a
- nominal duplication fee to the end user.
-
- This file is available for ANONYMOUS FTP from HMCVAX.AC.HMC.EDU in the
- directory INFO-EV-ARCHIVE as RESOURCES.PARTn (There are 3 parts right now). I
- try very hard to keep this list up to date, but since I've gleaned this
- information from a number of sources, no guarantee is made for correctness.
- (If you find any errors *PLEASE* let me know so that I can fix it! :-) )
-
- Electric Vehicle discussions have occurred in the following usenet
- newsgroups:
-
- Sci.Environment
- Sci.Energy
- Sci.Energy.Hydrogen
- CA.Environment
- Rec.Autos.Tech
-
- This is not an exhaustive list by any means.
-
- Note that I have reformated the information somewhat. Gone are the
- Begin: ... End: text database labels. They add too much text space and my
- newsreader chokes when I post this even in 3 parts.
-
- This part last updated October 14, 1993.
-
- -- Chris Yoder Burn Rubber, Not Gas!
- UCISRCY@Unocal.Com Drive electric today.
-
- Contents:
-
- Part 1
-
- 1) Common questions and answers
- 2) Electronic Lists
- 3) Publications
- 4) Books
- 5) Governmental Agencies
-
- Part 2
-
- 6) EV Associations
-
- Part 3
-
- 7) EV Suppliers (Parts & Whole vehicles)
- 8) EV Racing Associations
- 9) Related Associations
-
-
- F R E Q E N T L Y A S K E D Q U E S T I O N S
- -------------------------------------------------
-
- 1) How fast can an EV (electric vehicle) go?
-
- The current land speed record for "non-track based" EVs is near 175 MPH.
- Electric trains such as the TGV has been clocked at over 300 MPH.
-
- Most EVs being sold or built today are capable of at least 60 MPH with
- many able to get up to 85 MPH or more.
-
- The fastest 1/4 mile time for an EV that I know of is 11.3 seconds (@110
- MPH). This was done on an electric drag bike built by Ed Rannberg of Eyeball
- Engineering.
-
- GM's Impact prototype EV had a 0-60 time of 8 seconds. AC Propulsion has
- their prototype motor in a CRX. It's 0-60 time was clocked at 7.8 seconds by
- Road and Track. Most hobbyist EVs have 0-60 times closer to 15 or 20 seconds.
-
- 2) How far can an EV go?
-
- The current record for the distance an EV has traveled on a single charge
- is over 400 miles at 55 MPH. This record was set by driving a vehicle from San
- Francisco to Los Angeles. The owner of the vehicle would not state what type
- of batteries were used in the attempt, but most who are familiar with the
- vehicle believe that they were Silver/Zinc.
-
- Most EVs being sold today have ranges from 30 to 90 "freeway" (55-60 MPH)
- miles. The average commute here in Los Angeles is 20 miles (one way) with 75%
- under 50 miles (Source: GM EV Newsletter). According to "a 1988 Transportation
- Survey", 90 percent of second vehicles travel less than 30 miles a day.
-
- If you occasionally need to take a vehicle further and don't want to own
- an ICE vehicle, you could hook up a generator (run it on a renewable fuel if
- you like) on a trailer for the longer trips, rent another vehicle, or swap
- battery packs along the way. (All of these have been done in real life
- situations.)
-
- In the future, the ideal EV will have a hydrogen fuel-cell on board to
- provide clean power to keep the batteries charged for the long trips. The
- hydrogen will probably be stored in a metal hydride so that pressurized
- cylinders are not required.
-
- 3) What about all these new batteries I hear about?
-
- The Holy Grail of the EV industry is better batteries. The fact of the
- matter is that Lead-Acid based EVs can serve the needs of a large number of
- people today. Waiting for "better batteries" is just an excuse.
-
- It is true that not everybody will want or need an EV. They are but a
- piece in the whole transportation puzzle. Where they really shine is in short
- distance, mostly urban/suburban trips. This happens to be where ICE vehicles
- have their greatest short-comings.
-
- 4) Where can I purchase an EV and get it serviced afterwards?
-
- Most EVs on the road today are conversions of ICE (Internal Combustion
- Engine) vehicles. If you are mechanically skilled and inclined you can
- purchase a kit and install one in a vehicle yourself. However, there are a
- number of conversion shops who will sell you a complete vehicle. Please see
- the list of EV Suppliers found later in this FAQ for more information.
-
- EVs require very little maintenance, and most of that can be done at home
- with a tiny bit of knowledge. The maintenance required consists mostly of
- watering the batteries every month or so (if you don't have sealed batteries).
- If you do have a problem with the electrical power system of the vehicle, the
- manufacturer of the kit or converter of the vehicle should be able to help you
- (ask before you buy!). Most conversion shops should be able to maintain any
- EV. The other maintenance, such as tires, suspension, breaks and body repair
- work can be performed at your neighborhood repair shop.
-
- 5) How much does an EV cost?
-
- It depends upon the vehicle and how much work you are willing to put into
- it. The parts (including batteries) for a freeway capable conversion will run
- about $5,000-$6,000. Add to that cost whatever labor you don't supply and the
- cost of an ICE vehicle to convert. Turn-key conversions list at anywhere from
- $15,000 to $150,000.
-
- 6) Where do I get more information?
-
- Join the EV list or go to a meeting of your local EV club and ask!
-
-
- E L E C T R O N I C L I S T S
- -------------------------------
-
- EV@SJSUVM1.SJSU.EDU -- List Manager: Clyde Visser: CVISSER@UCRMATH.UCR.EDU
-
- General list for discussion of all practical aspects and applications
- of Electric Vehicles. An anonymous FTP directory is located on
- HMCVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU in the directory info-ev-archive (scans of EVs in
- the images subdirectory). A message archive is maintained by the
- LISTSERV. For additions, send mail to LISTSERV@SJSUVM1.SJSU.EDU with a
- message consisting of:
-
- SUBSCRIBE EV your-firstname your-lastname
-
- To get a DIGEST form of the list instead of individual messages, send
- mail to LISTSERV@SJSUVM1.SJSU.EDU with a message consisting of:
-
- SET EV DIGEST
-
- (These two may be combined into one message.)
-
-
-
- AE@SJSUVM1.SJSU.EDU -- List Manager: Clyde Visser: CVISSER@UCRMATH.UCR.EDU
-
- General list for discussion of all practical aspects and
- applications of Alternative Energy. A message archive is maintained by
- the LISTSERV. For additions, send mail to LISTSERV@SJSUVM1.SJSU.EDU
- with a message consisting of:
-
- SUBSCRIBE AE your-firstname your-lastname
-
- To get a DIGEST form of the list instead of individual messages, send
- mail to LISTSERV@SJSUVM1.SJSU.EDU with a message consisting of:
-
- SET AE DIGEST
-
- (These two may be combined into one message.)
-
-
-
- American Wind Association Weekly Newsletter
-
- Electronic distribution of American Wind Association Newsletter
-
- Send email to tgray@igc.apc.org to subscribe.
-
-
-
- Technomads@UCSD.EDU -- List Manager: Steve Roberts: wordy@ucsd.edu
-
- General list for discussion of mobile computing while remaining
- connected to "the net".
-
- For additions, send mail to LISTSERV@UCSD.EDU
- with a message consisting of:
-
- SUBSCRIBE TECHNOMADS your-firstname your-lastname
-
-
-
- Nomadness -- List Manager: Steve Roberts: wordy@ucsd.edu
-
- Travels of Steve Roberts (BEHEMOTH recumbent and Microship)
-
- Send mail to Steve Roberts in order to subscribe. (There *MAY* be a
- listserve based on UCSD.EDU that supports this list.)
-
- Also available in hardcopy: The Nomadness Report, $15/year from
- Nomadic Research Labs, PO Box 2185, El Segundo, CA 90245.
-
- P U B L I C A T I O N S
- -----------------------
-
- American Hydrogen Association
- 219 South Siesta, Suite 101
- Tempe, AZ 85281 USA
-
- Backwoods Home Magazine
- Dave Duffy, Editor
- (805) 647-9341
- P.O. Box 2630
- Ventura, CA 93002 USA
-
- Electric Grand Prix.
- Paul Heaney
- (716) 889-1229
- 6 Gateway Circle
- Rochester, NY 14624 USA
- Quarterly
- Comment: Technical & performance info.
-
- Electric Propulsion
- Jack Kerr, Editor
- (416) 890-1846
- 395 Matheson Boulevard East
- Mississauga, Ontario
- Canada L4Z 2H2
-
- Electric Vehicle Progress
- Laurence Alexander, Editor
- (212) 206-7979
- 1133 Broadway, Suite 1407
- New York, NY 10010 USA
- $327 per year
- Comment: aka "Management News & Technical Developments in the
- Electric and Hybrid Vehicle Industry"
-
- G.M. Electric Vehicles Progress Report
- 1-800-25-ELECTRIC
- Free
-
- Home Power
- Richard Perez, Editor
- (916) 475-3179
- P.O. Box 130
- Hornbrook CA, 96044-1030 USA
- Comment: Merged with Alternative Transportation News. A must have
- for those seriously interested in Alternative Energy issues.
- BBS: (707) 822-8640 -- Includes GIFs of graphs and diagrams
-
- PV Network News
- Paul Wilkins, Editor
- (505) 473-1067
- 2303 Cedros Circle
- Santa Fe, NM 87505-5252 USA
-
- Solar Mind
- Joe Stevenson
- (707) 463-1812, (707) 468-0878
- 759 South State, #81
- Ukiah, CA 95482 USA
- $25
- 6 issues a year
- Comment: Wholistic Approache to Technology and Environment
-
- World Electric Transportation & Solar Explosion
- Clarence Ellers
- (503) 547-3506
- PO Box 111
- Yachats, OR 97498 USA
- $30
- monthly
- Comment: Buy/Sell/Swap EV Section
-
-
- B O O K S
- ---------
-
- Title: Convert your Compact Car to Electric
- Author: Jones, Clyde R.
- Date: 1981
- ISBN: 0-89196-0961(pbk)
- Publisher: Domus Books, 400 Anthony Trail, Northbook, Ill 60062
-
- Title: Electric Vehicles, Design & Build your own.
- Author: Hackleman, Michael
- Date: 1977
- ISBN: 0-915238-179
- Publisher: EarthMind, 4844 Hirsch Road, Mariposa CA, 95338
-
- Title: 1992 Electric Vehicle Directory, 4th edition
- Author: Terpstra, Philip
- ISBN: 0-9626287-5-1
- Cost: $11.00
-
- Title: Electric Vehicles Unplugged!, Your Electric Auto Resource
- Author: Marsh, Douglas F.
- ISBN: 1-879857-00-6
- Cost: $9.00
-
- Title: Why Wait for Detroit? 2nd edition
- Editor: McCrea, Steve and Minner, Richard
- Date: 1992
- Cost: $10.95
- Order: (800) 468-4322 -- Ask to order "Why Wait For Detroit?"
-
- Title: SolarWind
- Author: Krutz, Kenneth W.
- Date: 1986
- Source: P.O. Box 849, Sunset Beach, CA 90742
-
- Title: The Complete Book of Electric Vehicles
- Author: Shacket, Sheldon R.
- Date: 1981
- Publisher: Domus Books, Chicago
-
- Title: All About Electric and Hybrid Cars
- Author: Traister, Robert J.
- Date: 1982
- Publisher: Tab Books, Blue Ridge Summit, PA
-
- Title: Electric Vehicle Technology
- Author: Unnewehr, L.E.
- Date: 1982
- Publisher: Wiley, New York
-
- Title: The Consumer's Electric Car
- Author: Wakefield, Ernest Henry.
- Date: 1977
- Publisher: Ann Arbor Science Publishers, Ann Arbor, MI
-
-
- G O V E R N M E N T A L A G E N C I E S
- -----------------------------------------
-
- CARB, California Air Resources Board
- Public Information Office
- Contacts: Bill Sessa, Jerry Martin
- (916) 322-2990
- P.O. Box 2815
- Sacramento, CA 95812 USA
- Comment: CARB was formed in 1969
- (ZEV) Emissions Standards Adopted Sept 27, 1990
-
- CARB, California Air Resources Board -- Southern CA
- Contact: Sylvia Vanderspek
- (818) 575-6703
-
- NYSERDA, New York State Energy Research and
- Development Authority
- Larry Hudson
- (518) 465-6251 ext 209
- 2 Rockefeller Plaza
- Albany, NY 12223 USA
- Comment: NYSERDA was formed in 1976
- Operates a fleet of nearly 300 alternate-fuel vehicles
-